I am looking for opinions on who are, IN YOUR opinion (not Hollywood’s or Wikipedia’s), the most admirable generals of all time. By that, I mean generals that have displayed leadership, bravery, strategic and tactical genious, and political savy. My current list in chronological order is:
Alexandros the Great
Publuis Cornelius Scipio Africanus
Gaius Iulius Caesar
Cao Cao of Wei (pronounced Tsao Tsao)
Jinghis Khan
King Gutav Adolphus of Sweden
the Duke of Malborough
Napoleon Bonaparte
Tecumsah Sherman
Erich Von Manstein
Honorary mentions: Louis Davout, Ike Eisenhower, Hannibal Barca, Wallenstein, King Frederick the Great, the Grand Duke of Alba, Heinz Guderian, Zhukov, Von Molkte the Elder, General Lee, Hernan Cortes, Subotai, Pompeius Magnus, Tamerlan, Erwin Rommel, Oda Nobunaga.
10 points to the one with the best answer who doesn’t use wikipedia.
To the person who gave me thumbs down, I recommend you actually do some research to see that my list is really consistent. You can probably cite other great generals, but everybody in my list was a great leader of men and a military visionary.
If you are angry for a thumb’s down in your answer, it wasn’t me. I always give thumbs up to honest opinions like those who have answered the question with what they think is relevant. I have loved many of the answers and will discuss them further.
If you are angry I will not give 10 points to the guy who cites me the most of wikipedia, I want to hear what other people think.
Tiko -Great point in Kutzov, his strategy was brilliant. Definitively an honorable mention.
MB – I hear you on Nobunaga, I love what he did on Japan. It’s just hard choosing who you admire the most. Spartacus is a great point, he surely made the Romans look bad.
jonmcn49- Wow, you got me. I didn’t know about Julian. Need to check it out.
gianihead – Of those who have mentioned, I honestly should have included Grant and Arnold (maybe Washington too). Still,I’m not sure Grant would have won the CW without Sherman’s decisive strike.
Time & Again – I hear you on Lee. It just is hard choosing between Lee and Sherman. Lee was definitively more of a leader and, but Sherman won the CW and inaguarted a new style of warfare.
Jefferson – Great points but not sure on Franco (BTW, my grandfather was franquista). I love William’s story, but I’m reluctant to call a great strategista medieval warrior. I’m also not sure if he had carried the day if an arrow had not killed Harold.
efw- Liked your top 10, Caesar & Scipio are my top dogs too : ) . I am under the impression that Hauser’s superior was Von Manstein. Rommel is overrated IMHO, but I don’t know why I forgot to put Patton (my mistake)
chrisB- Alexander was a great hero indeed!!!!
roosteman- In know many names are not common knowledge, but just because they are not known, it makes them lesser. Take Manstein; everybody thinks Rommel was Germany’s top dog in WWII, but the consensus among generals is that Manstein was the man. All others won key strategic victories with LT implications. Henry III benefited from a VERY STUPID French move based on chivalry nonsense and the longbow at Crecy , (Henry V fought at Agincourt – same story). Nelson was very brave, but if you read the Trafalgar’s campaign entire history, it is a comedy of errors.
Notrealname- Wellington was very efficient, but he was not in the same level as Bonaparte. He should be distingushed, though.
cp_scipiom – Loved references to Epanimodas (the Teban Sacred Batallion), Marius (Rome’s "New Model Army" creator), Belisarius (there is a reason why the Bizantine emperor feared him), Jan Ziska (Hussite rebellion, right?), Sobieski & Prinz Eugen (only guy in Europe who understood what Malborough was trying to do). You got me on Pilsudki, nedd to check him out.
nacman- Grant was a great, but IMHO both Lee and Sherman were better in the CW. Arnold was great, too bad he turned. Montgomery is the most overrated general of WWII.
Gaius Jullius Caesar – I liked Caesar’s empire building scheme, his exploits in Germania and Britain.
Scipio Africanus
Napoleon Bonaparte
Ghengis Khan – his empire was greater than Hitlers, Alexander’s and the roman empire combined.
Paul Hausser (especially for his victory at the 3rd Battle of Kharkov beating a Red Army 7 times his size)
Hannibal Barca – nearly brought rome to its knees
Erwin Rommel – desert exploits and charge across France in 1940.
George Patton – great tank commander
ALexander the Great – world conqueror
Stonewall Jackson – the man behind Lee’s victory at Chanclorsville, among others.
Robert E. Lee – beloved general among his men
Zhukov – stabilized the Eastern front